EP 229 – Serving in Bi-Vocational Ministry

Are you a bi-vocational pastor? Take a couple of minutes and fill out this survey: https://su.vc/bivosurvey Pastor Matt MacNaughton is back on the Bootcamp to talk further about bi-vocational ministry. This time we are also joined but Pastor Colin Pugh. Collin pastors Clinton Baptist Church in the D.C. area. Maintaining Spiritual Appetite and Pastoral Grit: Colin emphasizes the importance of maintaining a strong relationship with God, especially in the challenges of bi-vocational ministry. He highlights key verses from Jude (20-21) as instrumental in his spiritual growth. JimBo explores how Colin managed the high expectations of pastoring two churches and the importance of maintaining energy and spiritual vitality. Serving Your Spouse: The guys discuss practical ways to serve and support their wives amid busy and demanding schedules, highlighting the significance of intentional communication and quality time. Shared Leadership: Matt shares strategies for bivocational pastors, including determining priorities, developing leaders, and delegating responsibilities to create margin for essential tasks. Colin emphasizes the role of small groups, one-on-one meetings, and showing appreciation for small wins in developing leaders within the church. JimBo Stewart: [00:00:00] Here we are back in the bootcamp. I hope you're ready for the next episode. we have brought back to continue the conversation on Biblical vocational ministry, pastor Matt McNaughton, the resident church planter, not replanter of the replant bootcamp podcast and the replant team. But he is joined today, by his comrade in arms, his coworker in the field of Biblical vocational ministry research, listening to the field and trying to serve Bible guys, one of our. Pastor Pugh, Pastor Colin Pugh is the urban renewal specialist on the replant team at NAMM. so Colin, welcome to the podcast. Colin Pugh: Thank you so much, Jimbo and Matt. How you doing? Matt MacNaughton: I'm doing great. It is good to be on here with both of you guys. Colin Pugh: Amen to that. JimBo Stewart: Colin, tell us just a little bit about yourself real quick. Colin Pugh: so I'm Colin Pugh. I am a Revivalizer in, the D. C. area, at Clinton Baptist Church, and I also started as a, bivocational pastor. I got a unique story. I was a full [00:01:00] time youth pastor, but a part time senior pastor. And getting paid, by my home church who I was also the youth pastor at JimBo Stewart: Yeah, that's, I mean, interestingly enough, that is not the first time I've heard of a scenario like that, but there hasn't been many. and so that is a unique, version of bivocational. Now you're bivocational working with the replant team. And, in pastoring Clinton Baptist, but talk to us about how you managed, I mean, when you, when you're trying to pastor at two churches, I mean, the expectations, from both have got to be pretty high. And so how did you keep yourself? grounded in, in what we would call a pastoral grit, right? Like when it's hard and not just hard cause of conflict, but hard cause it's just a lot of work sometimes. how, how do you, how did you stay energized? I mean, you're one of the more energetic people I've ever met. So your, your, energy reserves are higher than most, but how did you keep your energy high to be able to serve at both churches? Colin Pugh: I found out early maintaining my [00:02:00] relationship with god was important. that would that spiritual appetite was Was he central at this time? Because at my home church where I was a youth pastor at and had a large yout