Supporting bird life in upland East Lothian: Kelvin Pate

East Lothian upland farmer Kelvin Pate is a relatively recent convert to bird conservation; he first started paying closer attention to the birds on his farm during Covid lockdown. He tells Anna about changes he's made on his farm to support birds, and shares his views on how people and policy can work better to protect wildlife. Thanks to sponsors Scottish law firm Gillespie Macandrew for making this episode possible.