Episode 35 - Men Are Foolish Part 2

**Episode Description:**<br/><br/>Get ready for an unforgettable episode of the "Great and Spacious" podcast! Join aaaAAAaaa, Abigail, Abish, and Moroni as they take you on an emotional rollercoaster, blending humor with shock, and stories of resilience with dark chapters of history. <br/><br/>**Mountain Mea-DEW Sunset and Special Guest Kali Koger**<br/>In this intriguing episode, we kick off with a delightful introduction by our hosts. They hilariously admit their occasional forgetfulness when it comes to self-introductions while sipping on their signature cocktail of the week, the "Mountain Mea-DEW Sunset." But the real treat lies in the introduction of our special guest, Kali Koger (formerly Warner), whose story is nothing short of astonishing. Kali teases us with a shocking revelation about a news article connected to her past that involves a father's unthinkable actions. Prepare to be riveted as our hosts express their astonishment, setting the stage for a deep dive into this disturbing story.<br/><br/>**Kali Koger (https://www.facebook.com/KaliKoger0)** [00:15:20]<br/>With the stage set, we delve into Kali Koger's life. From a whirlwind romance leading to a rapid marriage to the harrowing details of an abusive relationship, Kali bares her soul, shedding light on the complexities of domestic abuse, manipulation, and emotional turmoil. Discover the early signs she ignored, the shocking incidents that escalated over time, and the pivotal moment that pushed her to escape this nightmare. Kali's story emphasizes the importance of speaking out and recognizing the signs of abuse, offering a lifeline to those who may find themselves in similar situations.<br/><br/>**History** [01:53:08]<br/>In the second segment, Abigail transports us back to the mid-19th century, immersing us in a chilling chapter of Utah's history. The tension between Mormon settlers and the Timpanogos tribe unfolds, with promises of peaceful coexistence devolving into brutality and violence. Abigail paints a vivid picture of the settlers' disruption of the Timpanogos way of life, gruesome murders, and the spine-chilling extermination campaign orchestrated by Brigham Young. As we confront these unsettling historical events, we grapple with the frustration over those who deny or downplay them and the pressing need for historical disclosure. Abigail's discussion also delves into the horrifying Mountain Meadows Massacre, exposing the manipulative tactics employed by Mormon leaders and underscoring the importance of acknowledging and learning from these historical injustices.<br/><br/>Don't miss this captivating episode of the "Great and Spacious" podcast, where humor meets shock, and stories of resilience intertwine with historical reckonings. It's a thought-provoking journey that will leave you reflecting on the complexities of the human experience, both past and present.