Exploring the Shift in Church Attendance and Worship Practices with Josh Packard

In this episode, hosts Brian and Paul interview guest Josh Packard, author of "Church Refugees." They discuss the impact of Josh's book on their own work in worship leadership and the need for research to be accessible and applicable to everyday life. They delve into topics such as the decline of the church, the erosion of institutional trust, and the need for the church to adapt to societal changes. They also explore innovative approaches to worship and the importance of building trust and connecting with individuals.