Hafsah and Yen hash out how they met, who they are professionally and personally, and why they decided to start a podcast.Yen Azzaro is a full time graphic recorder, drawing what people say in real time (no, they don't look like courtroom drawings), illustrator and artist. She talks about the amount of time she's worked for others, and how much more she likes working for herself. Which, makes her kind of a brat.Hafsah Mijinyawa is an actual army brat that moved around a lot and dug into technical and conceptual learning around graphic and motion design, landing her in the tech world. She started out as a freelance graphic designer just out of school.Both Hafsah and Yen talk about their identities, how they are perceived and how stereotypes affect expected behavior. They also touch on why it's important to get someone's name right and how to execute an idea rather than letting it sit there. Follow them through the cadence of each episode with Labor, Leisure, Tactics and Homework.

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